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Tenkara Rod Review: Daiwa LL36SF

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Daiwa Tenkara Rod
A little while back I posted a Q&A with Christopher Stewart about the Daiwa Tenkara rods that are now available from TenkaraBum.  Well I finally got out to do a little fishing with one.  So I thought I’d share my initial thoughts.

The model that I used was the LL 36 SF which is a full flex 5:5 rod intended for level line fishing.  It is 11′ 8″ long when extended and about 24″ when collapsed.  It weighs in (without the tip plug) at 2.8 oz.

I fished the Daiwa LL 36 SF  with the TenkaraBum Hi-Viz #3 level line.  I cast both 18′ and 12′ lines with approx 5′ of 5x tippet.  The rod easily cast the 18′ level line very nicely.  I didn’t try it with a longer line because I never really fish with any more than 18′ and actually usually fish with closer to 12′ of line.

The casting stroke with this rod is much slower than that required on any of my other tenkara rods, which are all 6:4 or 7:3 rods.  I wondered if the difference would be noticeable and it is very noticeable.  I’d say the relaxed casting stroke makes for a less fatiguing easier day of fishing.

Also, the loading of the rod was very noticeable and I could feel it well.  This tactile feedback is wonderful.  It actually reminded me of casting a slow three weight western rod.  I have to agree with what Chris Stewart said in my Q&A with him:

I found that I was much better able to feel the rod loading, and being able to feel the loading better, it was much easier to make precise, tight loop casts. The tactile feedback is a lot more important than you realize. The difference in the feel was just really surprising. With the lighter weight and better feel, I thought it was a fabulous rod. I was sure that other people, or at least people who have fished a number of different rods, would feel the same way.
-Chris Stewart

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I liked the grip on this rod – it was nicely contoured.  I am not a fan of tenkara grips that have a flat profile – they tend to fatigue my hand.  This one fit nicely and I didn’t notice any nagging hand fatigue. This is not something I hear people talk about too much; although tenkara rods are very light, I find that they can tend to feel unbalanced and heavy in the hand due to the fact that there is nothing (i.e. no reel)to counter-balance the rod. For me a nicely contoured grip really helps to off-set this effect.  And this rod felt light in the hand and well balanced.

The rod’s appearance is subdued. It looks gloss black – but in fact has a subtle (almost unnoticeable)metallic-sparkle finish. The fit and finish are very nice. And there are some nice details. One being a 360-degree rotating tip, to avoid line-twist. And another is the “v-joint”. Basically there are groves machined into the rod at the joints to help prevent sticking. This is a nice feature,as many experienced tenkara anglers will tell you.

It is hard to fully evaluate a rod in just one outing – but since this is a loaner I have to try. The Daiwa LL 36 SF is a nice quality tenkara rod. The thing which seems to set it apart from other rods that I’ve fished is the “feel”. The way that you can feel the rod loading and the relaxed easy casting stroke make for a very enjoyable fishing experience. Is it worth the extra $ when compared to some of the other less-expensive tenkara rods available in the US? Well I haven’t tried them all so I can’t make a definitive statement there. And also it is a personal question that is hard to answer. Based on the rods that I’ve fished I’d say you’re paying more for the Daiwa and I think you’re getting more. How much more? and what is that worth to you? I can’t say for sure.

What I can say for sure is that I liked it quite a bit. I really liked the way it cast a level line – it has a smooth, easy cast with a lot of tactile feedback, and it was noticeably different than my other tenkara rods. If you prefer a slower, full-flex rod that casts a level line with ease then I don’t think you’d be disappointed at all with this rod.

disclosure: The rod evaluated in this post was on temporary loan from the seller, but I was in no way compensated for the review, financial or otherwise.

Some Fishing and Some Reviews (Tenkara rod, tenkara line, boots, flies)

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This past Sunday my father and I hit Yellow Creek in Bedford County Pennsylvania for some trout fishing.  We considered a trip for Lake Erie steelhead but I was anxious to try out the new AMAGO tenkara rod from Tenkara USA.  Also, wanted to give the new Tenkara USA 13-ft traditional line a workout, try out the new L.L. Bean Gray Ghost Studded, Rubber-Soled wading boots, and fish a new (to me) fly pattern. I had a full slate of tasks – oh and I wanted to relax and enjoy some fishing too.

Tenkara USA Amago:  The Amago is a 13.5 ft rod.  It’s the second longest rod offered by Tenkara USA, only the Ito is longer.  The Amago is rated as a 6:4 action (a “medium” action rating on the Tenkara Action Index) – I don’t have enough experience with enough rods to comment on the relative action too much – but I’ll say that I found the Amago to have plenty of backbone.  Unfortunately I didn’t hook into any huge fish, but it handled some 14-inchers with no problem at all, bringing them in quickly.   I found that it cast both the new heavier, Tenkara USA Traditional furled line and a fluorocarbon level line with ease (more on lines later).  The Amago is a beautiful rod.   The unadulterated black matte finish is perfect – all rods should be matte black in my opinion.   When I unpacked the rod at home for the first time and extended it to its 13.5-ft length I had to laugh – that’s a long rod.   However, on the stream I was glad for the extra length.   I have to agree with those that say to choose the longest rod that you can use on any particular stream.  However, if the streams that you fish have a lot of over-hanging trees, then a 13.5-ft rod will likely be too long.  Yellow Creek, in the area that I fished, is a medium sized stream, maybe 40 feet across on average, with mature trees lining the banks, with very few low-hanging branches over the stream.   It’s a perfect tenkara stream and the 13.5-ft Amago matched the stream very nicely.

I do have one complaint about the Amago though – the grip design.  The Amago is a long rod, and I found that the grip design did not work for me as well as I’d like.  The Amago has a relatively small grip diameter, and except for the end, it is pretty much an un-contoured design.   Maybe other anglers will have a different experience, but I found that the small diameter and flat profile did not fit my hand well and by the end of the day I was suffering from some hand fatigue.   I couldn’t seem to find a hand position that allowed my index finger to rest along the grip (see pic to right), and the result was that I had to squeeze the grip more tightly.  I believe that the Amago would benefit from  a larger diameter, more contoured grip, like a reverse half-wells grip, similar to the Iwana II series.

In conclusion, the Amago makes a nice addition to my tenkara rod quiver.   Because of it’s length, I would call the Amago a “specialist”, not as versatile as a 12-ft rod.   Unless you fish larger, mostly wide-open streams I’m not sure I’d recommend the Amago as your sole tenkara rod.  If you’re looking to expand your selection to a big-fish, big-stream rod then I would surely recommend the Amago.   That said, I’m in the process of investigated ways to modify the grip to fit my hand better.  I’m thinking of wrapping with leather or neoprene to create a larger diameter contoured grip.

Tenkara USA Traditonal Line (new version): Recently Tenkara USA changed up the design on their traditional tenkara lines.   They are made of a new material (kevlar I believe – don’t quote me though).   The new line is supple and very visible (which can be a good thing when tenkara fishing).   On this day I fished the Amago with the 13-ft line (it comes in a 10.5-ft version too).  So how does it perform?  Well, this was only my second outing with the line – but I think my decision is in.  First the good.  The line is highly visible, and casts very easily with little effort.  I had a little wind and it handled it well (I still haven’t fished it in very windy conditions though).  As a major plus it does not get all hinky and uncoiled when snagged.   If you’ve fished the older Tenkara USA lines or other furled leaders or lines you know what I mean.  The new line doesn’t have any problems like that.  Now the bad.  The line is heavy.  In tenkara fishing it is desirable to be able to keep the entire line off of the water at a distance.  Light lines are easier to keep off the water at longer distances.  But light lines are harder to cast, especially with wind.  Achieving a perfect line design is a is a balancing between these two opposing goals.   This line is tilted a little to far to the heavy end for me.    I found it very difficult to fish at a distance.   I would cast out, lift my arm high to keep the line off of the water and the line would tend to drag back toward me.  I just couldn’t fish at a distance.  Secondly, the line sinks pretty rapidly.   In some circumstances, such as with overhanging trees, you may not be able to keep the rod high enough to keep the line off of the water.  In these cases I find that I like a line that floats (like nylon level line or a floating furled line) or doesn’t sink too quickly (fluoro isn’t too bad).  This new line sinks pretty rapidly.  And that combined with it’s high visibilty makes for fish spooking in my opinion.   So for my fishing preferences and fishing locales this line is just not ideal.   And on this day my fishing success was much greater with a fluorocarbon level line.   This line’s going into the pack to be reserved for windy days.

L.L.Bean Gray Ghost Wading Boots: The Gray Ghost wading boot by L.L.Bean is a rubber-soled boot.  I have the studded version ($139), but you can get it without studs too($119).  I don’t have too much to say except that I love these boots.  I have no complaints.  They are comfortable, light and most importantly I didn’t slip once even on mossy rocks and other slick  substrates.  The look well made – but only time will tell how they hold up.

Purple flies and my “One-fly”:  That’s right purple.  I’m not sure where I first heard tale of purple wet flies, probably it was with the Snipe and Purple traditional soft-hackle.  Here’s a good video from Davie McPhail on tying this.  With respect to tenkara flies the first time I heard it mentioned was probably by ERiK Ostrander of TenkaraGuides.   ERiK ties a fly that he calls the Purple Haze Kebari (watch him tie it).   This is where I got the inspiration for my purple kebari, which is essentially the same thing except that I used purple Pearsall’s Gossamer silk thread instead of sewing thread as ERiK does.  So does it work?  Well, all day long there was a sparse hatch of tiny (maybe size 26) BWO’s coming off and in one big pool (see the pic at the top of the post), there were some fish taking emergers (they were pretty much ignoring the floating duns).  I took a few on tiny emerger patterns and then figured I’d give the purple kebari a try.  In short order I brought two more sippers to hand on a size 16 purple kebari, even during BWO hatch activity – make of it what you will. 

 However, the real winner of the day, and I’d have to say, the year was the good old brown-hackle peacock wetfly.  My version is basically a classic wetfly pattern – however most other dressings have a tag of red wool or red hackle tips – I use a brown hackle-tip tail in mine.   I’ve been using this simple pattern as my go-to tenkara “one-fly” for the past two seasons and it has been very productive for me.    I generally use them in size 12 through 16.  Many tenkara fishers in Japan have a signature fly pattern that they fish almost exclusively – I am officially declaring my signature fly the brown-hackle peacock. 

The pattern is simply:

  • brown rooster hackle tail
  • peacock body
  • gold wire rib
  • brown hen-hackle collar
  • tied on a heavy wet-fly hook.

 Disclosure:  I bought the Tenkara USA Amago and Traditional lines at a slight discount from retail.  I purchased the L.L. Bean wading boots at full retail.

 

Fly Fishing Blog Spotlight: The Slippery Trout

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I’ve been enjoying reading this blog for a little while now: The Slippery Trout: A Fly Fishing Blog.

About the Blog In the writer’s own words
This blog is primarily designed to record my time fly fishing for trout in the northeastern United States; however, I write and post about anything I encounter during my fishing expeditions.

Just as it says, Matt, presents a sort of online fishing journal, complete with pics of more than just fish.  In his latest post on Pennsylvania’s Penns , Elk and Fishing Creeks we get fish pics, info on the hatches and some wildflower pics (with identification).

The inclusion of insect hatch info and wildflower pics should be a great help to the fly fisherman interested in Phenology (as we all should be).

From Wikipedia
Phenology is the study of periodic plant and animal life cycle events and how these are influenced by seasonal and interannual variations in climate.

So, check out the wildflower pictures, review the hatch info and take notes. Next year when you see those flowers blooming you’ll know just what flies to tie.